And that causes a traffic jam in my brain, trying to remember what is and is not handled that way.) Rather, it's a case where something that appears vertical is measured horizontally, and is therefore considered 'horizontal', such as analog resolution. It's not the same as not knowing your left from your right. I read a quote like that and the first thing I think is 'aw hell' because it's going to take some deep though to fully process it.įor starters, I always get my directions messed up, vertical vs horizontal. On the other hand, I don't know that I can disagree with it either. The line TBC found in Panasonic and JVC vcr don`t heal vertical synch. A DVD recorder should have inside at least this type of TBC but some don`t have even this type of TBC. These errors are fixed by external TBC who have frame synchronizer. The other type of error affects vertical sync signals that cause dropped frames. These errors are corrected by Line TBC incorporated into the high end VCR and some DVD recorders (ES10). One type affects horizontal synchronization signals that causes wavy lines. If you want to fix wavy lines and by-pass the noise reduction made by JVC DigiPure I suggest to buy a Panasonic S-VHS VCR with TBC or insert in chain a TBC that fix H-synch errors (ES15). Unfortunately there is no consumer capture card with TBC built-in and advanced Proc Amps settings. In this way you avoid losses causes by repeated conversions. Inside one of these you should make all corrections (fix TBC errors, fix problems related to Proc Amps, Detailers and Image Enhancers). The ideal workflow have only two devices: VCR>capture card. Inside external TBC and DVD recorder in passthrough mode occur two conversions (analogue signal is converted in digital form and after the digital signal converted in analogue signal). I assure you that the losses caused by ES15 are significantly smaller that those caused by DataVideo TBC.Īnyway, if you want maximum quality should avoid using external TBC. LS exaggerate side effects made by ES10 in passthrough mode. The reason behind this is that Datavideo TBC-3000 and I.Den IVT-7 act as a frame synch, heal only the v-synch errors and leave h-synch errors unfixed. However, the standalone TBCs don't do a particularly good job of what the JVC VCRs' TBCs excel at, that is, correcting the timing of the scanline so there is no waviness in the image. I want to know what I should consider, and what I shouldn't consider, and why. So, if you use a DVD recorder in your chain for this purpose, please let me know about your experience, good or bad.

I'm just asking people for their experiences to decide whether it may be worth checking out ebay for a used machine that may be helpful. I seem to recall in the past some people also claiming that Toshiba DVD recorders (RD-XS34's and a RD-2) could do the same thing as the ES10, and maybe without some of the undesireable side effects. Or if someone wants to tell me the ES10 doesn't really do anything all that bad to the image when used as a passthrough device, I'm open to listening to that also. What I am really looking for is something that can align scanlines like the ES10 can do, but maybe with less of the undesireable issues the ES10 is alleged to cause, so I can use it most of the time in my capture chain. I already knew of the ES10, but as LS says, there may be other issues caused by the ES10 that may not make it suitable for use in most cases. I specifically want to know if there is a device (for instance the ES10) that I can use as a passthrough device with VCRs other than the JVCs to obtain the effect of the JVC TBC (not considering the DNR aspects of the JVCs). However, the standalone TBCs don't do a particularly good job of what the JVC VCRs' TBCs excel at, that is, correcting the timing of the scanlines so there is no waviness in the image.

Just to be clear about things.I already have 3 JVC VCRs with TBCs (7600, 9500, 9900) and 2 stand alone TBCs (Datavideo TBC-3000 and I.Den IVT-7).

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